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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2002 :  17:35:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just wanted to remind everyone that this is probably the best HIp hOp album EVER!!
i dont care WHAT yo broke ass momma say!

"not the best, not the worst"

rap handsome
BIG BRO

771 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2002 :  18:26:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
actually, my mom doesn't really like public enemy. although she always thought that "the guy with the clock around his neck" was kinda funny in a pretty ridiculous way.

anyhow. i think "it takes a nation ..." blows "fear of a black planet" out of the water.

any takers in this debate?

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DayByDayEnt
TOTAL BRO

USA
626 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2002 :  22:01:10  Show Profile  Visit DayByDayEnt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Both are great albums but I must side with my man E-Rock and go with "It Takes A Nation..." Word is P.E. is coming back!

Peace

http://www.daybydayent.com


Holla Holla, pack that Gaston Glock at all times!
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Gordon Jump
King of the WESH

1118 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  07:29:04  Show Profile  Visit Gordon Jump's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think your mom thought that the guy with the clock was Easy- Z.

Hard to choose between 'nation' and 'fear,' both are immense. I just have to point out that given the chance i'd listen to Apocalypse 91 first. I also own a Young MC album put out in 1996, and credit US3 for discovering the innovative mix between Jazz and Hip-hop so...

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abortedchimpfetus
TRUE BRO

400 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  09:27:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this is a little off topic, but did Big Daddy Kane really fuck Madonna?


ya smell me?
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sweet boy guy
I like ones that are funny.

Mexico
4826 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  10:22:19  Show Profile  Visit sweet boy guy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When I was in third and fourth grade I was a big rap fan, mostly just because it had bad words. But I owned some LL Cool J, Run DMC, MC Shan, Fat Boys, Beastie Boys, standard elementary school fare for the time. Then all of a sudden that short red head country singing kid from Diff'rent Strokes transfers to my school and starts wearing these Beatles shirts and next thing I know I am a full feldged Beatles freak. This spread to classic rock over the next few years, and by the time I was 15, I was the best/worst hippie/dork of all time.

Then one day, on a whim, based on nothing at all, I decided I would expand my musical horizons and get a "rap" CD again. I bought Fear of a Black Planet and started memorizing the lyrics and lip sycing in my room. I got my aggression out in ways I could never do before with "Octopus' Garden" or "Yellow Submarine". Not that the Beatles don't have any more aggressive songs, but Fear of a Black Planet really signified a major change in my personal growth, which is why I prefer it over It Takes A Nation.

That said, picture a fourteen year old white boy with zits, a mullet, and tie dyed shirt in his room rapping "Burn, hollywood, burn" and "Fight The Power" into his mirror. Brilliant, isn't it?

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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  11:33:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FEAR!!

"not the best, not the worst"
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  15:37:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks like FEAR is runnin shit round here solo

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rap handsome
BIG BRO

771 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  15:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nah dun, it's two to two so far. and one of the votes for "fear" was by sweet boy guy, a man who owns a MUCH too recent album by pm dawn. so i dunno ...

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sweet boy guy
I like ones that are funny.

Mexico
4826 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  15:45:30  Show Profile  Visit sweet boy guy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People think that "Set Adrift (On Memory Bliss)" was their hey day. To them I say, "Hey!" because they went on to make tens of other pretty good tracks.

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sweet boy guy
I like ones that are funny.

Mexico
4826 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  15:45:38  Show Profile  Visit sweet boy guy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People think that "Set Adrift (On Memory Bliss)" was their hey day. To them I say, "Hey!" because they went on to make tens of other pretty good tracks.

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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  15:49:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'die without you' was kinda hot i must admit

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senioritis
The Ayatollah of Fun!

Lesotho
1932 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  16:02:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now i may not know much about hip hop these days, but when Color Me Badd's "Young Gifted And Badd" came out, i know i was right in line with you guys in the record shop wearing our colorful rayon shirts and tan suede utility boots.

am i right? am i right?

if you want to take a moment to get back to the "baddness" take a look here... and rememmmmber

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=952798932/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=COLOR+ME+BADD/itemid=7018



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rap handsome
BIG BRO

771 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  16:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
isn't that the album cube directed the video for? hard to go out harder than directing a video for color me badd.

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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2002 :  16:59:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'll take nation of millions.

part of it is sentimental:

my nation tape broke and i took it out of the case and into an old maxell. i colored the "silver side" with a silver crayon.

my fear tape was a gift from my brother who taped it from his friend jared's cd. it was shorter than the 90-minute tdk tape so it had the first x-clan album on it.

with the nation tape, it would be pe all the time, and with the fear tape, it was fear and then xclan, then fear, then xclan. and i was down to go to east cambridge blackwards, but the quality of the music just wasn't there.

i also first heard songs from the album on the "street beats" radio show, where me and my friends would call and ask for shout-outs for each other but used stupid fake names. it was seventh grade.

i definitely own more singles from fear than i do from nation, but as an album, nation is more important.

musically, however, nation is just raw. split stereo for flava and chuck on party for your right to fight? x scratching the melody on 'caught'? not as raw as my 98 oldsmobile was but still, fresh, for 89 like krs said.

3-2.


later, perpetrator
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  14:05:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
burn hollywod burn!!! c'mon now...yall KNOWW!

"not the best, not the worst"
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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  15:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
man i actually went out and rented 'black caesar' after i heard that song. 'yo i got black caesar at the crib'. it was terrible. terrible. just terrible. and straight up the type of hollywood they were talking about burning.

the whole song wasn't even half as poignant as flava's "motherfuck him and john wayne" on fight the power.

why didn't they just release singles?

later, perpetrator
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  15:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just like how black folks hate the beatles- its just a thing 'yall' cant really understand i guess

"not the best, not the worst"
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rap handsome
BIG BRO

771 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
do black people really hate the beatles?

it seems like every jazz record i own from the 60s has beatles covers on it. i'm sure that was mostly done to get tracks on the radio, but still.

i'd never really heard that black folks hate the beatles. interesting. i knew they hated billy joel though.

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abortedchimpfetus
TRUE BRO

400 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:24:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how do black people feel about billy...bob thornton, that is?

ya smell me?
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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
are these stan getz records?

i've seen prego bob his head to let it be at eddie's. of course, it was aretha singing, and there are hot drums on that track. but it's still a puzzle. does aretha like the beatles? or is she just using them? but how can the daughter of a preacher hate anyone?

later, perpetrator
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:25:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well maybe not hate them (i do), but most of us prefer the temptations

"not the best, not the worst"
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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also, are there any white people who like lakeside?

later, perpetrator
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:29:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think aretha made a diss record to paul and ringo. she said the two dead one was cool wit her. ....lester, i don t recall noddin to any beatles or aretha at eddies house. but hey, ive been known to abuse sustances

"not the best, not the worst"
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:30:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

also, are there any white people who like lakeside?

later, perpetrator




all for the money kid

"not the best, not the worst"
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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:33:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
naw naw

at eddie's

not at eddie vic's house

in the jukebox

you were probably ogling some girl in another booth in short shorts

later, perpetrator
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2002 :  16:40:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ohhhh, now i remember. yes i WAS peepint he short shorts. i was also peepin the Prego shrine they put up over the jukebox at eddies cafe on divis/ fulton....where i also happen to be at on Sundays.

"not the best, not the worst"
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2002 :  12:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
contract on the world love jam

"worst ending ever."
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abortedchimpfetus
TRUE BRO

400 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2002 :  12:27:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"livin' in a zoo"...that is one underrated jam.

go gauchos!
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prego3.5
AWESOME BRO

Indonesia
1100 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2002 :  14:02:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah

"worst ending ever."
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DavidRuffin
AWESOME BRO

Georgia
1573 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  09:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
listened to it again last nite. still bangin harder than nation of millions, solo

KENYA WOO WOO WOO
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abortedchimpfetus
TRUE BRO

400 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  09:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the "he got game" soundtrack kills both of those.

Can I walk the righteous path holding a beer?
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Comic Book Guy
BRO

17 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  09:38:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will agree, albeit grudgingly, that this is certainly the best album Public Enemy was able to muster.

Albeit grudgingly.

*Worst* *Message board* *Ever*
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abortedchimpfetus
TRUE BRO

400 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  10:08:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Chuck D "No" CD maxi single kills all of 'em.

*Worst* *Rebuttal* *Ever*

Can I walk the righteous path holding a beer?
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kevin lyles
AWESOME BRO

USA
1199 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  10:12:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fear of a black hat was a great hip hop satire!

better than cb4.



"you gotta coordinate Marcus....coooooordinate"
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DavidRuffin
AWESOME BRO

Georgia
1573 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  10:16:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anybody see that hip hop movie Play'd on vh1? funny shit.

KENYA WOO WOO WOO
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kevin lyles
AWESOME BRO

USA
1199 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  14:15:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

anybody see that hip hop movie Play'd on vh1? funny shit.

KENYA WOO WOO WOO




it couldn't have been any worse than butter on HBO.



"you gotta coordinate Marcus....coooooordinate"
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DavidRuffin
AWESOME BRO

Georgia
1573 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2002 :  14:18:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

quote:

anybody see that hip hop movie Play'd on vh1? funny shit.

KENYA WOO WOO WOO




it couldn't have been any worse than butter on HBO.



"you gotta coordinate Marcus....coooooordinate"



nah, it wasnt that bad. it was loosely based on that east vs west pac/biggie shit. its just funny how they used big worm to be Suge Knight. Carmen sucked pretty hard too.

itz our turn, Fresh!!
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B E L I E V E
Speaks with his hands

Andorra
3340 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2006 :  07:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



...THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE...THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE......THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE......THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE...

B E L I E V E it
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yomamaspipecleaner
TOTAL BRO

Azerbaijan
743 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2006 :  10:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ironically, I was listening to "fight the power" when I pulled up the wesh right now, andthis was the top thread.
quote:
Originally posted by B E L I E V E




...THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE...THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE......THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE......THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBLE...

B E L I E V E it



"Vitia erunt donec homines."

(There will be vice as long as there are men.)

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lester
Still has only heard "Hey Ya" twice

Jamaica
6796 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2006 :  03:32:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you don't mean ironically, you mean MAGICALLY!

Travel light.
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flipwilson
inventor of the rapaoke mash-up

USA
5673 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2006 :  08:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last night I went to karaoke and "Fight the Power" was one of the choices. Which I guess means the power won.


Would a lunatic have a Porsche like this?
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Hairy Funbags
TOTAL BRO

Laos
755 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2006 :  08:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flipwilson

Last night I went to karaoke and "Fight the Power" was one of the choices. Which I guess means the power won.


Would a lunatic have a Porsche like this?



Another reason I believe in Karaoke deregulation.

"The proper office of a friend is to side with you when you are in the wrong; Nearly anybody will side with you when you are in the right."
-Mark Twain
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